[octaveguin]

That's not true.

Many people can self-learn. Those same people often cannot perform well in school because school is rigid and authoritarian.

I'm definitely one of them and my career refutes your idea quite heavily. I'm absolutely not the only one.

Doubling down on debt and the system with another advanced degree is dangerous advice.

If you cannot self-learn, you find out relatively fast and with little cost. Not true for the above advice.

[throwawaygh]

> Many people can self-learn. Those same people often cannot perform well in school because school is rigid and authoritarian.

So... labor isn't uniform?

> Doubling down on debt and the system with another advanced degree is anti-advice.

Becoming a medical doctor is anti-advice? Is attending Harvard Law or Stanford's CS PhD program also anti-advice? I know this is a tech forum, but jeeze. The lack of appreciation for the world of fulfilling career choices outside pounding out code and managing people who pound out code is a bit concerning.

I guess there's a small population of people who aren't good at school but can self-learn how to program. I agree that for those people a DIY CS degree is good advice.

However, I also think that there's a substantial intersection between people who would get bored doing generic software dev and people who can self-learn CS.

[unishark]

> Many people can self-learn. Those same people often cannot perform well in school because school is rigid and authoritarian.

Are you still talking about college here? For a lot of classes, I commonly skipped class and taught myself the topics. In some fields like math that was practically the system even if you attended: Step 1: attend lectures that go too fast and lose you at some point, providing little more than a roadmap to use. Step 2 go home and teach the material to yourself. Step 3 attend exams to quantify how well you did.

[lorenzorhoades]

i've seen this comment a couple times on HN and find it funny. My classes and lectures were mostly about what was not in the book and if you tried to read the book and take the test you'd get around a 50%.

[throwawaygh]

Really depends on the field. Parent comment is pretty accurate for most pure mathematics courses. Not so much in other fields (even non-pure math)