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Sorry, my main point was: If you press a believer on why there must be a god in order to explain things, they will always point to the necessity of a god, that things had to come from somewhere. But there is never any necessity for god to come from somewhere. Of course, the definition of "god" is different than "things that are not god". The point is the intellectual dishonesty of arguing that their definition of the nature of god necessitates the existence of their defined god.