[perl4ever]

>The EU have had roughly as many deaths as the US per capita

I don't believe this is true, and probably hasn't been for a while. Talking points tend to outlive changing conditions.

Europe has had 270-310 per million, depending on whether you include Russia, while the US is up to 433. And the gap continues to widen because every day twice the number of people are dying in the US compared to all of Europe.

Conversely whatever is being done clearly is working for NYC and has been long enough for the death rate to follow the new case rate down. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to say that because of all the people who died, the efforts that stopped people dying didn't work. There were ten deaths yesterday in Manhattan+Brooklyn+Bronx+Staten Island+Queens. Miami-Dade county had almost triple. But that underestimates what's coming, because new cases were over 3200 (in a day) compared to about 300 in NYC. People have steadfastly refused to believe that new cases become new deaths over time, but you can see the numbers going up.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[ThomPete]

You can calculate it yourself.

Europe (exl Russia) is around 176000