[claudeganon]

>Again, the excess death is the deaths caused by lockdown, not the deaths caused by a highly infectious respiratory virus.

At the point that you're making blatantly counterfactual statements like this, it's hard to take anything else you say seriously. Some estimates put excess deaths from things besides COVID during lockdowns at about 35% to the total, but they in no way exceed the excess COVID deaths themselves, especially given the likelihood of COVID death undercounts.

You also obviously don't understand how the thresholds for herd immunity work are dependent on duration of immunity and social dynamics of populations. All of humanity doesn't just get together and say "let's get together, right now, and see which of us dies," as much as you would seemingly like to argue that they should. We don't have herd immunity to any number of diseases (e.g. cholera) because we quash their spread through other means, like sanitation, quarantines, using masks. I don’t know why you cite SARS over and over again without acknowledging that we don’t have herd immunity or a vaccine for it.

[__blockcipher__]

(1) You misunderstand my use of the term excess death. I was using it in the same sense of the comment I was replying to.

I wasn’t talking about “excess deaths” ie the extra deaths not explainable by known covid deaths. Sorry for the confusion. (Although I think more of those deaths are non-covid, likely cardiac disease etc due to fear of hospital)

(2) I talk about sars-1 because covid is caused by sars-2. You understand that right?

We don’t have herd immunity to sars-1 because it burned itself out. Sars-2 will not do that because it is not nearly as lethal and exhibits presymptomatic spread. It is here to stay.

Also by pointing out we don’t have a vaccine for sars-1 that only strengthens my argument that banking on a vaccine for sars-2 is foolish