[TACIXAT]

I believe the IBS product is dangerous. There are foods I cannot digest because my gut has been damaged from celiac disease (high fructose foods). Even if Nerva is effective at treating IBS (perhaps, especially if it is effective) that would be treating a symptom for an underlying disease while maintaining the activity that damages your body.

I am incredibly grateful I never heard about this before trying an elimination diet. The simple fact is that if I pursued and did not also restrict my diet I would be destroying my body and likely end up sicker than I was before. If you have IBS please pursue a real diagnosis and treat or manage any underlying conditions.

[alexnaoumidis]

As someone with Celiac disease I know where you’re coming from but you’re conflating two different conditions.

Celiac disease occurs when your immune system damages your stomach lining in response to eating gluten. It’s why a strict gluten free diet is required. Many gluten contain foods also contain FODMAPs but that’s not what’s causing the immune response.

IBS on the other hand is a functional condition which means it’s problem with how the gut works but doesn’t lead to any damage of the gut/stomach lining. Instead, it’s thought that visceral hypersensitivity could be at play, where the nerves in the gut are overreacting to the gas and expansion caused by the fermentation of FODMAPs. By avoiding FODMAPs you limit this process and reduce symptoms - it’s thought that GDH helps with this process from the top-down and that’s potentially why the Monash study (creators of the Low FODMAP diet) found the response rate was so similar between the two treatment groups.

[TACIXAT]

People with celiac often have IBS and are often misdiagnosed with IBS. [1] They are not disjoint problems and often difficult to differentiate. It seems really reckless to offer this as a treatment without requiring people to consult a physician for a proper diagnosis.

1. https://www.beyondceliac.org/celiac-disease/related-conditio...

[alexnaoumidis]

Nerva is for people have been diagnosed with IBS, not for people who have self-diagnosed themselves. I definitely agree, many conditions present similar symptoms like IBD, celiac disease etc so it’s important people are properly diagnosed before attempting any management options including the low FODMAP diet and GDH.

Nerva isn’t a treatment, it’s a program that teaches people self-regulation skills and relaxation exercises that can help them self-manage their symptoms.

[throw345hn]

As someone who only suffers from IBS, I have had good results from elimination and low fodmap diet. However stress and anxiety also have a pretty big and equal effect as diet. Both go together for me and even if one of them messes up it, I get a flare up kind of reaction.