[DaiPlusPlus]

What you’re describing are all inadequacies in current browsers to deliver a good user-experience for native HTML features. There’s no reason why browsers can’t show upload progress/status for non-AJAX uploads, and there’s no reason for browsers to keep on having poor <select> UX. etc.

JavaScript itself is a workaround - it shouldn’t be the solution.

[wruza]

There's also no reason to expect browsers to become anything more than poor man's window decorations for webkit/etc, cause it didn't happen for three decades. We're on our own here and that ain't gonna change.

[gear54rus]

He's describing only SOME ways to solve those use-cases. No way I'm trading extensibility and programmability of a browser for something some guy thought up to be 'ideal' solution to those cases.

[1337shadow]

If some field of the form doesn't validate then upload has to start over, unless you store the file in some tempdir and add it to the session and go through that kind of length.

What exactly do you suggest to fix select ? Even if it was parsing a JSON blob, you still have thousands of results, an autocompletion endpoint seems much more efficient.

[hfourm]

Why can't we look at JavaScript as the solution instead of as the workaround