[jwilber]

You say, “what’s really happening” and then follow up with generalizing all local governments as the same and all protestors as rioters, so I’ll assume your post isn’t very sincere.

But I’d like a sincere response: What difference does it make what they did if they were apprehended by unidentifiable officers? That’s the topic at hand - the fact that police are apprehending people in ways that are not identifiably different from kidnappings.

[blisseyGo]

> all protestors as rioters

That's not what I meant when I said:

rioters (not the protestors)

I meant to say that a few violent people are sneaking into the protestors. By "not the protestors", I meant "I am not referring to the protestors".

By local government, I meant the mayor, the governor and the DA. Portland, Chicago has been this way for a long time.

[TheSpiceIsLife]

You still haven’t responded to the strongest part of the argument here:

I’m what ways do you believe any of this justifies kidnapping people?

[blisseyGo]

Kidnapping? Really?

The officers have POLICE on their chest in big letters. People getting arrested have helmets, bats and window breaking tools on. They aren't "protestors". They are preventing peaceful protestors.

Also there's some claims of some of them being undercover agents who have infiltrated Antifa though I am not sure if that can be confirmed.

[jwilber]

You claim, “People getting arrested have helmets...” and that, “They aren’t protestors.” - here’s a video of a peaceful protestor getting taken in an unmarked vehicle [0]. Sadly, plenty more exist of similar conduct.

But two responses later and you’ve still ignored the question: what difference does it make what they’ve done - why defend unmarked police? I’ve taken the time to show evidence that it’s occurred, it’d be nice if you reciprocated some effort.

[0]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/ne...

[blisseyGo]

They don't just have police badges, they also have patches on their shoulders which is for DHS. This was reported couple days ago that DHS will be coming in to stop the rioting:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/acting-secretary-wolf-co...

Media's claim that they are "unidentified" is simply false.

[TheSpiceIsLife]

I can get my friend who owns a fabric printer to print “POLICE” on to every piece of clothing I own.

Does that make me identifiably a law enforcement officer?

[blisseyGo]

They don't just have police badges, they also have patches on their shoulders which is for DHS. This was reported couple days ago that DHS will be coming in to stop the rioting:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/acting-secretary-wolf-co...

Media's claim that they are "unidentified" is simply false.

[TheSpiceIsLife]

If they aren’t wearing unique identification, then I’m going to confite arguing they aren’t identifiable.