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by samvaran 2164 days ago
Basic question - where will all these 747s actually physically go to be retired? Will there be a landfill somewhere with a huge amount of airplane parts? Will they be left to rust in some hangar in the middle of nowhere?
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Most of them end up in dry desert areas in the southwest United States: https://www.airplaneboneyards.com/airplane-boneyards-list-an...
Isn't this only for planes with some value left? Either they're for parts or might fly again? Otherwise, wouldn't you just cut up the airframe and sell it for scrap?

Now, composite planes are a different story. I doubt there's any value in scrap carbon fiber.

Huh—are these (presumably huge) areas guarded? Am I stupid for wondering what's to stop a group from making off with a plane?
For planes that are being retired, they usually take the engines off pretty early because they have some of the most valuable parts for resale in them.

They’d also be drained of all fluids. For planes in storage to be used again later, they fill all the fuel, hydraulic, etc. lines with special liquids to keep them preserved. So it’d be at least a week’s work for a team to get a stored plane going.

Most 747s won't be used again.

Could I buy one to have in my backyard?

Any idea on price?

Assuming you don’t have a 1500–2000 metre heavy aircraft runway in your backyard, it’s the shipping costs that would likely kill you.
I guess it would have to be disassembled and shipped in pieces.

Unless a cargo blimp can take it. Do such things exist?

I know nothing about this, but there are people who move their houses, surely a plane is easier than that.
I believe just like storing a car for a long time, fluids are drained and other items removed/wrapped for storage. You can't just jump in the cockpit and taxi out to the runway. They are kept in a state that is relatively easy to restore to functioning status but not in functioning status.
Good luck taking off without fuel and any ground equipment, not to mention any consumables that would have to be replaced after prolonged stay in a desert.
Well, they don’t leave the keys in the ignition ;)
Or fuel in the tank.

And it’s probably being blocked in by other planes. Those desert boneyards don’t park planes with random access in mind.

Looks like they leave fuel in the tank if it’s for short term storage, but they drain various fluids if it’s longer term storage. Probably depends on the circumstances.
Precisely—and this circumstance is retirement with no prospect of a quick sale.

At a guess, they’ll probably have limited parts value, only that which would be valuable to operators of 747 freighters. Mainly the engines, if they’re in good nick.

As a random fun fact planes don't have keys.
Do they have some other authentication mechanism instead?
The authentication method is knowing how to fly said plane and getting in said plane in the first place.

The planes that are relatively accessible aren't flightworthy without effort, and the planes that are flightworthy require violating federal law (in the US) to access them.

Airliners generally do not.
Some small ones do.
I suspect some may be sold to freight lines for conversion but many will end up in aircraft boneyards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_boneyard
They'll almost certainly become cargo carriers. It's the main use for 747s these days.
Can passenger versions get converted to cargo?

edit: hmm, looked into it for a minute, and while it has been done, it doesn't sound very popular at the moment due to cost: http://www.aircargopedia.com/passengertofreightpg.htm https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/air-cargo-boo...

That was the sales pitch when most observers thought the 747 was going to be the last subsonic long-haul passenger plane. "Don't worry about the supersonic plane we're currently designing, you'll be able to sell your 747 as a great easy-conversion cargo plane once the SST comes out."
Certainly can, even temporarily (this is an A380, but I assume it works for any aircraft).

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/a380-hi-fly-auxilary-frei...

Google "desert aircraft boneyards". They will be parted out for pieces to keep remaining models of the same type flying, and when that's not economical anymore, they are cut up for aluminum scrap.
This guy could upgrade to a two-story house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oquV0vvhjh0