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by mtgp1000
2169 days ago
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>yet you're trying to convince yourself and everyone else that "illegals vote in large numbers" Not once have I said anything like this. I've been trying to show that it's a valid concern. >tate law prohibits DMV from sending information for AB 60 applicants (undocumented
driver license applicants) to the Secretary of State. For other applicants, state law
requires each person to declare, under penalty of perjury, that they meet all voter
eligibility requirements, including citizenship. It took some 15 comments and multiple sources before this safeguard was posted - it's not even on the Snopes page. Don't presume I'm arguing in bad faith or dismiss my arguments as "feelings" just because I disagree with you. This is the only snippet in your entire argument that actually prevents illegals from being registered to vote, which was my entire point of contention. Penalties don't matter if no one is enforcing them. And finally, once again, I'm not suggesting that proof of fraud exists, or is easy to find - what I am saying is that Wapo's laughable absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. |
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You're right, and I apologize. It's a long and heated comment thread :-)
> I've been trying to show that it's a valid concern.
Are you at least somewhat more convinced now that these "concerns" are really more about casting doubts on the validity of California's elections? And on automatic registration in general? Because the facts are that undocumented people aren't registered to vote when they get a license or ID, even if they try to.
> It took some 15 comments and multiple sources before this safeguard was posted - it's not even on the Snopes page.
Agreed. It took me some digging to find the exact source too, and I'm surprised Snopes didn't have it. It should have been right at the top of the article.
> Penalties don't matter if no one is enforcing them.
If there was something to find, there would be enforcement. I've already shown that it isn't hard to find evidence of wrongdoing. Why aren't state or federal prosecutors going after them?