[giantg2]

The population and future population events (pandemics, wars, control policies) are something I've wondered a lot about. I wonder if things will happen slowly enough that a sufficient portion of the population will voluntarily say "I don't want to bring a kid into this world" or if controls will be necessary. Of course with the economy being consumption driven, we will have a massive problem either way.

[justaguyhere]

The no kids thing is already happening on a small scale. I decided when I in college that I'll never bring a child into this world.

There was even a guy who wanted to sue his parents for his birth. As absurd as this sounds, it makes one think. Maybe that was his motivation

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47154287

[giantg2]

Yeah, but you still have plenty of people popping out 5+ kids and at a young age (smaller generation gap).

I am not saying this is true across the board, but my anecdotal experiences have been that the people who have more than 3 kids are not able to support them without government support programs (some exceptions like the Amish). I don't see any disincentives to having more kids if you know that support will be provided. Governments also promote having children via tax credits and even monthly payments for raising a kid (Norway or Sweden I think). That's not counting the needs-based assistance. It's all because the economy suffers if the population shrinks or stagnates.

Of course we can't just stop the needs-based payments and neglect the kids, but I would love to see the tax credits disappear and maybe require some kind of long lasting birth control as a requirement to assistance if they already have the replacement rate number of children (2) to ensure we aren't adding to the issue.

I have one kid and I don't think I want anymore. I see a very bleak future for the next generation.

[giantg2]

Looks like I was wrong. I just happened to stumble on this.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/experts-predict-profound-dec...