[0xfaded]

I just bought a specced out 1950x on a x399 with 64gb ram (plus the box, power, etc) for about $800, which I think is the fair price for 3 year old hardware. It needs a GPU, but for my usecase it's perfect.

I'm also in Europe, so prices are higher.

[disgruntledphd2]

Yeah, me too. I spent a lot of money on this machine, but amortised over about five years (which is how long my last one lasted), it's acceptable (that's what I keep telling myself anyway).