[natch]

Are you really taking these as promises?

Link 1: "will probably"

Link 2: "I think"

Link 3: "He said he expected…" and "It is not possible to know exactly when each element of the functionality described above will be available"

Link 4: "He predicts"

Link 5: "He thinks"

Link 6: "I think"

And in some of these he's not talking about production cars, but is talking about prototype vehicles in Tesla's development fleet.

[avereveard]

turbocapitalists insisting that a "maybe" relieve people from their claims is the reason why progressive countries have laws against misleading advertisements separate from contract law.

[natch]

I agree with that, but saying "I think x will happen" is not the same as saying "I promise x will happen."

Keep in mind the word "promise" is being used repeatedly and emphatically on forums like this one.

[amznthrwaway]

I didn't expect Musk's defenders to offer up a defense whose cornerstone is that his judgment is so poor and his knowledge so weak that it is foolish to trust even short-term predictions about his own products.

[natch]

It’s not exactly how you’re reading it, but you could say bleeding edge is how he operates. When there is a 51% chance of success, he goes for it. We’re talking in the lab. For consumer products, the standards are different. A lot of his statements are about the lab versions.