[abtom]

Agreed that satiation is a major aspect. How satiating a food is, is not simply about carbs/proteins/fats. Most carb rich foods people eat today are high in sugar and low in fiber. That causes people to overeat. You can also overeat with high fat foods because fat is much more energy dense.

You can just as easy have a bad keto diet as you can have a bad high carb diet. Replacing processed carbs with processed meat will not do any good. It's a group 1 carcinogen and will also lead to high cholesterol level causing heart disease.

My point is that carbs aren't the enemy. Neither is fat. Eating unprocessed/low processed food should be the goal.

[amanaplanacanal]

The evidence that high cholesterol “causes” heart disease isn’t very good. There appears to be an association, but that’s really all we can say.

[jonfw]

in my experience- the more I learn about nutrition, the more I realize that we're just talking about everybody's best guess. Hard facts are scarce in this space.