[jim_and_derrick]

sounds about right to me. i've had product managers argue that we fix bugs fast enough that we should not actually try to implement real solution (python2 to python3 upgrade). This lady is like 'every py2->py3 bug takes less than 2 hours to fix. Why would we do the solution that takes multiple sprints?'

jaw dropped. since then i'm committed to being the biggest office space corporate schmo possible. let me cog it up, keep payin me 6 figs, lettin me work at home full time.

[Cthulhu_]

Honestly, product managers should be told to fuck off when it comes to the engineering part of the job - they have their job, you've got yours. You stand for your product, they have to work with the reins they've been given (in terms of productivity of their team) without trying to micromanage it.

[geoffbp]

Sheesh, python 2 to 3 is definitely something worth taking the time to do.