[listennexttime]

How tedious to have to constantly refute FUD when it's easy to find the answers with Google.

Anyone involved in Kubernetes, near CoreOS at the time, or really anywhere in the space at the time (instead of looking back at it with anger), knows this all to be false. CoreOS was setting direction for etcd, and understandably adding features for one of its bigger users (and in fact, some of those features are used by things of larger scale than k8s).

Kubernetes itself was started by Googlers, many of whom are still there or left to go... do Kubernetes at Red Hat (IBM) or as a startup, or at Microsoft. But to act like it was an outside project started by people who had previously quit, or are somehow unqualified to work on an orchestrator, is just an an angry untruth. Every major committer to Kubernetes besides a handful of RH folks were at Google when Kubernetes 1.0 came out. I'm happy to be corrected but I know it's hip af to hate k8s (just like two days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23807556)

[hoebbz]

Thanks. I just wanted to know what the author meant; it wasn't obvious that I needed to Google the quote to figure out the meaning. I certainly hope that I wasn't adding any FUD to the discussion.

[jacques_chester]

Of the folks heralded as "founders": Brendan Burns is at Microsoft, Craig McLuckie and Joe Beda are at VMware via the Heptio acquisition.

Google is still the plurality contributor, followed by Red Hat. If you count Red Hat and IBM jointly, they overtake Google[0].

Disclosure: I work for VMware, which competes with Red Hat/IBM.

[0] https://k8s.devstats.cncf.io/d/9/companies-table?orgId=1&var...