[Lammy]

This is an area where the concepts of 'proof' and 'truth' don't really apply since any two people observe fundamentally different realities. It's not about bashing each other over the head until one of us agrees the other was correct about the One True Reality all along, but about sharing our observed worlds with each other so we can build societal systems that serve everyone.

[waheoo]

Well I think if youre going to single out a group of people and call them names you should probably have some form of proof.

This whole thread is just trying to label expression of masculinity as a being a jerk.

Maybe ya'll need to stop the white man whitch hunt until youre ready to prove something other than the fact I wont float.