[leonheart208]

I don't think so. They aren't a master because of a chess slave. It's a title earned in a "fair" championship, as opposed to a title of ownership/dominion over the defeated players.

Another parallel would be a master's degree (there is no slave's degree), given to someone that attained knowledge in a field (as opposed to "enslaving" the knowledge).

[neatze]

Chess master literally dominates most if not all ranked players below master level.

[celticninja]

But the other levels are not know as slaves.

[neatze]

Seems like you implying slave is another N world, I think I get this aspect, but then what about colors of chess pieces ?

[manicdee]

That argument is pretty old and stale.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/24/taxpayer-funde...

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/racism-in-chess-whi...

[neatze]

Can you please elaborate, because if chess colors have nothing to do with racism then how does master/slave and white/black list is ?

[manicdee]

Master/Slave is quite explicitly racist given the context of European colonisation of the “western world” (mostly fuelled by slave labour, and most of that cohort was forcibly extracted from Africa and non-European origins).

Blacklists have recently become a target because of the connotation that black is bad and white is good. It’s that simple.

In Chess (had you read the documents I linked) you would know that there is no requirement that white move first, or even that the side be black and white — I had one set of azure and orange stones, and another which was Elves vs Dwarves. The only requirement is that the two set be different so you can tell which pieces are yours or your opponents.

[celticninja]

It's not an N word. It is the association with slavery, and that being the basis of the name, that is the issue. The black pieces are equal to the white pieces in chess.

[neatze]

Black pieces are not equal in chess game both statistically and as a consensus among players, because white moves first, and the first move is an advantage in a chess game.

[celticninja]

does it mean so much to you that these terms are not renamed? if they do mean that much to you perhaps consider why you feel that way. if they don't mean that much to you, why argue about it? especially if it means nothing to you but can mean something to someone else, something that causes no real hardship for you, why can't you do that for a fellow human without it needing to be justified.