[PragmaticPulp]

Have you looked at actual end-to-end latency numbers for common operations? I’m not talking about theoretical transfer times between buffers or carefully structured synthetic benchmarks.

Using fast-twitch PC games as the gold standard, most people are looking at 60-80ms of latency on a local PC. The online game streaming services hover around 150ms, which is noticeable but still entirely usable. (Source: https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-stadias-input-lag-compares... )

That’s why I say that 1ms vs 30ms of terminal latency is a non-issue. When I’m typing, I’m not on a tight feedback loop with each character. I know what I’m typing, so I’m not waiting for specific letters to appear on the order of a blink of an eye.

Most of us are using 60Hz monitors (17ms per frame) with terminals that have 20-30ms of lag, with OSes that introduce slightly more delay, and so on. Then we SSH into remote servers with 50ms, or 100ms, or 200ms of latency or more. The total delay between hitting a key and seeing the letter on screen could easily be 200ms on the regular for an SSH session, yet our typing isn’t falling apart.

[justin66]

That PC Gamer article is not an endorsement of the idea you're pushing that all this latency doesn't matter. "Singleplayer games are mostly fine to play through the cloud, but any cloud gaming platform is going to be a no-sell for people who only play multiplayer games, even with a good connection."

I don't want to give that magazine article too much credence, but when it comes to user experience, we as an industry ought to try for more than "mostly fine" or "isn't falling apart."