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by runawaybottle 2171 days ago
I’m not the OP, but I doubt anyones saying that. If anything you’re asking for a long drawn out fight over why some sexes don’t major in STEM more.

The argument is going to boil down to the “pipeline” problem, ‘there’s not enough to begin with for it to be represented in proportion’, which leads to the moral hazard dilemma of do we just started filling quotas.

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doorstar 2170 days ago
The OP has clarified that he thinks that women inherently do not have the skills needed for the tech industry. It's not an unusual attitude, and challenges your assessment that this is a 'pipeline' problem.

As long as tech workers think that some races have 'cultural' problems and as long as some tech workings think that there are differences between men's and women's brains that make women less suited for tech work, I think we have to stop dismissing this as a pipeline problem.

The prejudice is real and all over this thread posters are happily justifying it.

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centimeter 2170 days ago
You should try to learn how to discern the difference between “<group> doesn’t have the skills for <activity>” and “<group> is statistically less likely to match selective criteria of <activity>”. It’s a pretty critical distinction.
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doorstar 2170 days ago
Does it lead to the same conclusion though. At the end of the day, do you believe that the lack of minorities and women in tech is justified?

If so, that only supports allegations of racism and sexism in the tech industry.

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centimeter 2170 days ago
> Does it lead to the same conclusion though.

Not even slightly.

> do you believe that the lack of minorities and women in tech is justified

There isn't a lack of "minorities" - there are more than population baseline of East Asians, Jews, Indians, etc. There are a lower-than-population-baseline number of South Americans (which I am, by the way), black people, etc.

"Justified" is a moral judgement, not a factual or predictive one. You can believe whatever you want is or isn't justified independently of reality. However, the current distribution of ethnic groups and sexes in tech (and most other industries) is expected and predictable based on the distribution of correlated factors within those industries, without having to appeal to racism or unfair discrimination.

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