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by Dig1t 2170 days ago
Google is also mass refactoring internally as well, blacklist/whitelist are now blocklist/allowlist and so on. It's quite a bit of churn.
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This one kind of bothers me. Dark and light are concepts from long before written history and have nothing to do with humans even. Predators and bad things hunt in the dark, evil, etc.

There's really no benefit to meaningless conflations of human social problems with other things.

I agree with the other comment about assuaging white guilt; it doesn't help someone get hired, talk to the police, or find housing. Those are the issues we need to work on.

> I agree with the other comment about assuaging white guilt; it doesn't help someone get hired, talk to the police, or find housing.

You make it sound like this is a bunch of white people unilaterally doing something so they feel better. As if there are no black programmers asking for this change.

https://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-engineers-replace-racially...

The whole point of this effort is to make the workplace less hostile for people we work with. Black programmers are part of that.

Yes, that's a good point about needing to create a welcoming workplace, so maybe this discussion is more of a spectrum where we need to decide where the line is?

Guidance would help instead of everybody guessing or corps randomly scrubbing things until the bad PR goes away.

> Guidance would help instead of everybody guessing or corps randomly scrubbing things until the bad PR goes away.

I'm having trouble seeing an issue black developers have been raising for over a decade being called "Randomly Scrubbing". It's been a known pain point for some time.

> blacklist/whitelist are now blocklist/allowlist and so on

We did that… and then a week later, got informed that “blocklist” is still racist because it “looks similar to blacklist” and now we need to do a second refactoring to change it to “denylist”

>ot informed that “blocklist” is still racist because it “looks similar to blacklist”

wtf?? Are we going to rename while loops too because it looks too close to "white"? Or blockchain because it looks too close to "blackchain" (slavery reference)?