[3JPLW]

This is quite the caricature of what's happening in that thread.

> The truth comes out.

The truth was never hidden. It's all laid out quite plainly here: https://julialang.org/legal/data/.

> If providing usage statistics is something that the Julia developers already know the vast majority of users do not want to do

There are three reasons someone might not opt-in: they don't want to, they don't know about it, or they simply don't care. To ignore the latter two is simply disingenuous.

> The rest of this discussion devolves into "Everyone else is doing it". The lone dissenter finally gives in to peer pressure.

That's certainly not my read of the 200+ post thread.

[pwdisswordfish2]

You are certainly entitled to your developer perspective.

What are the reasons users do not read the /legal/data page on the Julia website? What are the reasons users do not read 200+ posts from developers debating the use of opt-out telemetry? To ignore such reasons, assuming they exist, would also be disingenuous.

If you put the choice clearly before users and they knowingly, affirmatively choose to submit usage data, then no 200+ post thread is necessary. Instead, the choice is not left to users. It is made by developers, and the fact of the use of opt-out telemetry is found on a webpage that developers know users do not read.