[luckylion]

Growth is irrelevant unless you're a net-contributor. The EU really doesn't need more underdeveloped economies to support, it needs to get everybody to a similar level and deal with the tax havens, not do some SV-hypergrowth model where the issues will magically resolve themselves if only you can have 15% population growth by acquiring more members.

[lowdose]

In my view China has used exactly some SV-hypergrowth model where almost every Chinese living is 50x better off than their parents.

[luckylion]

Yes, and that's great for China. But for a country to benefit the EU by becoming a member, it would have to be above EU average and be a net-contributor. Turkey isn't anywhere close, so it would be another money sink for the EU.

[lowdose]

Isn't the issue with the EU it's underperformance to what the Chinese did in half the time?

[luckylion]

It's not that simple. You'll want to look at GDP/capita to compare countries in general.

My point is a different one though: If Turkey joined the EU, it wouldn't be a net contributor, it would get huge subsidies from the EU. As such, it wouldn't benefit the EU economically, and it would be a disaster politically. It may be nice for some private companies to get easier access to a new market, but the price would be much too high, and I'm fairly certain that the EU would not survive Turkey as a member state.