[blondin]

okay, so... you seem to understand where the other researcher is coming from and agree with most points. i am also going to assume that you read, or perhaps know, some of the sources cited numerous times on this page.

but because she did not explicitly state those on twitter, or because of the way she brought it up, we need to invalidate her whole argument?

i mean... how odd!

[nmfisher]

> but because she did not explicitly state those on twitter, or because of the way she brought it up, we need to invalidate her whole argument?

No-one said anything that could be remotely interpreted as "her whole argument is invalid".

I'm sure he'd be more than happy to discuss with Gebru where he agrees and where he differs on his Facebook page or at a conference panel. I think he explicitly said this.

He's just decided that Twitter is not the platform for that kind of reasoned debate. Gebru's attitude in this instance - providing nothing more than "I'm tired of this, you need to listen to marginalized communities" - was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Dylan16807]

Because the points of disagreement are the reason she's upset, and the reason there is an argument in the first place.

Of course she's right about all the things that everyone agrees on. Everyone in the conversation is right about most points, if you break down their stance into a list of points.

It's not that the points of disagreement invalidate the correct points, it's that having a bunch of correct points doesn't really tell you much about the thesis.