[jeanvalmarc]

> do you think our government is better than theirs? For how long?

America has problems, but your order-of-magnitude calibration is way off if you think a concentration-camp operating (i.e. the real kind with over a million people who committed no crime and are held just for their beliefs and culture) expansionist (Hong Kong, Tibet, Taiwan) totalitarian (speech is monitored and punished in a "go to prison, right away" manner rather than "twitter deleted my racist shit and nothing else happened to me" way) government. So yes, occasionally ineffective democracies that value human rights and freedoms (i.e. the west) is better than the CCP government, and will continue to be better now and into the foreseeable future.

[severino]

Yes, you're right. My mistake was talking about better/worse governments, while we don't have to choose at all. I should rephrase it as: is our government good? I'm sure nobody can say it is, whichever government it may be. So that's why I find uncomfortable to hand all my data over to the ruling party in my country, while I don't care what a random CCP functionary can learn about the cafeterias I frequently go to.

[sukilot]

On a per capita basis, the US has more people in prison than there are Uyghurs in Chinese camps and Chinese residents in prison combined.

The US invaded Iraq for oil colonization.

[Larrikin]

Your whataboutism didn't mention the ongoing protests that are working to fix the problems you're referencing which would never be allowed in China.