[boomboomsubban]

>And you tell me US is the same as HK?

You are comparing what happened in one city against what happened across the entire country. Look at the actions of the NYPD during these protests. They have also received virtually no punishment despite their range of heinous acts.

An occasional incident nationwide that drives up enough outrage to force a punishment doesn't grant us some moral high ground.

[hkmaxpro]

The parent comment compared the US to HK, so did I.

Now I just focus on NYPD: NYPD charged an officer for using a chokehold. [1]

No officer was charged in HK after the year long protests for their misconducts and brutality.

Side note: Numerous HK protesters were also victims of sexual harassment or sexual violence during arrest or detention. A 19-year-old girl was gangraped by police officers in a police station and got pregnant, and the police threatened to arrest her for “making false statements”. She defended her claims and had to flee to Taiwan. [2][3]

Any similar incident in NYC?

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/nyregion/nypd-officer-cho...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ3-OZaEcCA

[3] https://hongkongfp.com/2020/05/13/hong-kong-woman-who-accuse...

[boomboomsubban]

>Any similar incident in NYC?

Yes

https://theintercept.com/2019/08/30/nypd-anna-chambers-rape-...

[hkmaxpro]

The NYC cops had to resign. Hong Kong cops who gangraped the girl are still at work and may keep harassing others. Their names were also not revealed, so when they switch jobs in the future they will be clean.

Anna Chambers wasn’t threatened with the being arrested for “making false statements” and can still live in New York. The Hong Kong victim (who got pregnant and had to undergo an abortion) had to flee to Taiwan for her own safety.

US cops commit a crime and get away with minimal punishment. HK cops commit a crime and the victims get arrested.

Another example: the boy shot by live rounds by the cop in this video [1] was charged for attempted robbery and obstructing the police [2], even though the event was triggered by poor policing according to an experienced Australian officer [3].

See the difference?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm_s0fm4hH0

[2] https://www.thestandnews.com/society/%E8%A5%BF%E7%81%A3%E6%B... (in Chinese)

[3] https://twitter.com/JeromeTaylor/status/1194074222768771072

[boomboomsubban]

The NYC officers action wasn't even considered a crime, it was that case that finally forced a law change stating people in custody can't consent. Their names being released isn't much of an issue, one of them shares a name with Moby.

Anna Chambers may not have been threatened with arrest, but her name was dragged through the mud by the tabloids, and is likely still at risk from police retribution.

The two are not identical, but the differences do not give any moral high ground to the US.

US cops committing a crime and arresting the victim is also commonplace. Search for any instance of planting evidence or any of a score of incidents from these protests.

[hkmaxpro]

Planting evidence may mean a few cops are corrupted and lenient punishment isn’t enough.

Threat of arrest from Police Chief and repeated bogus charges from Department of Justice to defend police crimes mean a totally broken system. That’s another level.

[boomboomsubban]

There's the Adrian Schoolcraft incident, where a whistleblower was forcibly institutionalized. Allegedly the commissioner was involved in the incident. I'm still not seeing them at different levels.