[gruez]

>You are not given any of the context of what happened in these situations. If there's video the video starts when the conflict is already full swing, you're not seeing anything that led up to the situation.

If only there was some sort of recording device that we can put on police officers, and either they can be trusted not to "accidentally" turn it off when an incident occurs or is always-on.

[lawnchair_larry]

They had an always on policy and the ACLU sued them because people were afraid that they might be using them for surveillance.

Again, sometimes context is important before making assumptions. People will tend to immediately fill in the blanks to fit what they want to be true. And unfortunately more often than not, when receiving new information, they won’t retract anything or reconsider their position.

[verdverm]

I checked my local city, some of the incidents are true, others lack evidence, others seem to lack a brutality component all together (such as firing a pepper all at the ground in front of someone breaking the law.

No doubt we have a problem, this is a great start to a collection, but we may want to consider filtering for truth or at least incidents with credible evidence

[gruez]

>No doubt we have a problem, this is a great start to a collection, but we may want to consider filtering for truth or at least incidents with credible evidence

Yeah, that's the job of the justice system. However, they have been failing to do their jobs properly for decades. If they could be trusted to investigate themselves we wouldn't need this list.

[tartoran]

Before we filter for truth lets train our police force to be less violent because that breads more violence on the other end and we all loose except for the powerheads in charge as well as the real gangsters. Police have no right to be violent, they do get a paycheck for fsake, and they have the law on their side as well.

I will respect all cops when they earn it. So far I respect only those I interacted with and were well behaved, polite, etc

[SpelingBeeChamp]

Currently, and historically as far as I know, part of a police officer's job is to hurt people, when certain conditions present themselves. Every day police officers respond to DV assaults that are in progress. Oftentimes the perpetrator fights the police.

Any time an arrestee is not fully cooperative with the police taking them into custody, the arrest is not going to be pleasant to watch. Someone is having their freedoms taken from them by force. I don't see an alternative, though.

Here is a scenario:

A person just committed a carjacking using a gun. It happens every day. (There are more than 30,000 carjackings a year in the US, and a bit less than half involved a firearm.)

What non- or less-violent action do you suggest a better trained police officer would take to bring the offender into custody?

Let's say the carjacker didn't have a gun, but instead had beat the driver up. The police spot them, and they run. What next?

Serious question. I have never heard what I consider to be a practical answer to how policing could work in the United States without use of significant force.

[darksaints]

I have yet to see a credible explanation for the vast disparity in police violence between the USA and literally every other first world country. Let's take Germany, for example. How is it possible that US police kill more people in half a year than German police have killed since 1952?

There are thousands of practical answers to your question. If you haven't found any of them practical, you're not trying.

[imtringued]

That doesn't explain why police violence happens against unarmed and vulnerable people.

[TouchyJoe]

Violence against unarmed and vulnerable people is just safer for the police.

[specialist]

"...what I consider to be a practical answer..."

Do you have a practical answer for policing without using significant force?

[TouchyJoe]

Any rich part of town is policed without any use of significant force.

[SpelingBeeChamp]

No. That's why I asked the question.

[verdverm]

I guess people don't like hearing / learning that there are falsehoods and unsubstantiated claims in the data set.

Do you know of any data sets that don't have bad data?

Or maybe down votes because this is not the comment I thought I attached this too... hmm, let me see if I can at least fix that