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by roenxi 2179 days ago
> It is a win for the far-right to have y'all here on HN "disagree with them but still believe they should be here and not on the fringe"...

The "far-right" is becoming a broad term in media usage and will end up in the same place as "racist" where it is a category that catches the views of a good 40% of people. It isn't obvious that wins for the far right is a bad thing.

Nobody is going to lose sleep over the Klan being pushed off Youtube, but Molyneux is not a member of the Klan.

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While there are probably examples of that, I find it unlikely that the general use of the "far right" would capture 40% of people very unlikely.
Right now, you're right. But look at how definitions are changing.

When I grew up, I was taught that the goal in life was to be colorblind. Race didn't matter, what mattered was what was in one's heart.

Today, I'm considered a racist for these views. The term "racist" has been victim to this definition expansion too. Where it used to be considered "discrimination due to race," it has expanded to mean "discrimination by a majority group against a minority race," a definition that unnervingly doesn't consider hate speech against white people as racist.

At this rate, the definition of "far-right" will expand to the point where anyone not supporting the narrative of the day will be labeled as such. Just like how people were labeled "communist" in the 50's as a way to leverage power over others. It's modern-day McCarthyism, but what is different is that this modern-day McCarthyism is being applied to all the major social media platforms months before an election. The control they're trying to leverage over everyone is stunning.

There are so many examples it’s kind of ridiculous. Jordan Peterson, for example, who isn’t even remotely right.

What I mean to say, is that it’s become common for left-leaning media to describe perfectly moderate right positions as “far-right” and “alt-right,” to the point where those terms mean almost nothing to someone who isn’t politically savvy to distinguish.

Calling someone "far right" or "alt right" are effectively dog whistles at this point, used to notify a member of the Democrat party that their standing in the community and probably their income is at serious risk if they do anything to speak positively about the person.
How Jordan Peterson isn’t even remotely on the right apart from him saying it? Any action leaning on the left for him has some evil Marxist influence for him. Also his theories on “Masculinity“ have nothing to do with classical left and right and are de-facto alt-right.
Any action on the extreme left. Not only that, but also the extreme right.

As a result on one hand he's criticized as a nazi/racist by people on the far left (e.g. you, apparently), and as globalist/socialist by people on the right.