[PragmaticPulp]

People who think bad behavior is okay tend to cluster together. The people who objected likely were selected out over time, either by leaving for more ethical companies or being pushed out for non-compliance.

Over time, the bad actors would become surrounded by other bad actors. It becomes a bubble, or an echo chamber.

[duxup]

>tend to cluster together.

Yeah that is seems to happen informally too. Often I don't think it even requires people being pushed out or even knowing what everyone's views on things are, it just happens.

I worked with a guy who had some interesting views, I suspected he was a casual sort of racist (turned out to be way more than that) but obviously I wasn't going to probe this guy's opinions and I avoided him beyond work related topics and such. He never said anything overtly racist and I really didn't think much of it other than not wanting to be around him.

Then over time as his team was built ... similar folks with similar views. It wasn't some planned cabal or anything, I don't think they were in a conference room talking about recruiting racists ... it's just that people who were less comfortable tended to want to work elsewhere and those who liked him worked with him and like gravity things sort of just worked out that way.

Then finally he did something monumentally stupid (some text in code ... in a customer environment).

There's some further investigation and yeah some emails are found involving this guy's team and suddenly they're all gone.

In my example it wasn't even that anyone was pushed out for differing views or etc .... they just chose to be elsewhere before they even knew what that guy really thought, and folks with similar views / ok with that guy got closer.

And it might have also been less a racism vibe that people picked up on as much as 'this guy seems like he'd do something unpredictable / is not trustworthy'.

[mistrial9]

super non-helpful comment deleted -- instead, be good to each other, and I will try also

[duxup]

I gotta be honest and say that I'm not at all sure what you're saying. Clearly there is a very general common theme here about bigotry... but beyond that I'm not sure how your comment is connected to mine.

For the record I'm not in Virginia ... I'm not sure what that or "East Asian companies" has to do with it.

[50ckpuppet]

this is true. I used to work for a closeted racist who argued he wasn't a racist because he voted for Obama. But would hire guys he thought he could add to his inner circle. He loved to point out examples that "proved" his theory that stereotypes were truthful, and he only did this when he thought he had the "right" audience. Real manipulative fscker.

[50ckpuppet]

this is true. I used to work for a closeted racist who argued he wasn't a racist because he voted for Obama.