[gdy]

"And Russians certainly did not win this war."

We most certainly did, we still exist as a nation.

[brnt]

If there ever was a people divorced from its nationstate, its Russia. I know the propaganda department does not allow for critical thinking on this matter, but Russians did not win, and have never really won.

That I hope will change someday.

[gdy]

You remind me of people in the Soviet Union brainwashed by the propaganda and confident that it is all true.

We have shook off that and got quite a cynical attitude.

I see you haven't done the same.

I don't have a hope that it will change someday.

[brnt]

Not sure what you mean. What I hope is a human Russian history, not dictated by what passes for government there. An honest confrontation with the past, and not a Hollywood interpretation meant to match the US and to cover up the horrors that have occurred.

[gdy]

What you offer ("It would be more precise to say the Russians were an American mercenary army.") by far beats the craziest Hollywood interpretations.

[sergeykish]

You ignore USSR and Bolsheviks crimes, you know better than USSR marshal about "combined efforts", you look quite brainwashed.

[gdy]

No, I don't.

[jaakl]

Well, define winning. Here the looser side(s) still exists not only as a nation, but also as flourishing economy, human rights, democracy, welfare etc. Russia has only the yearly parades.

[gdy]

The USSR lost the Cold War.

[sergeykish]

I believe he is about wining like German population did. There was no Nuremberg trials on Soviet leaders. Millions killed but nothing.