[metrokoi]

Do they? What are these minor infractions that would get picked up on? Likely drug or gun charges. Most people don't own guns illegal or use illegal drugs. The only common infraction I can think of is speeding, but that's not what these criminals are being picked up for. Cops don't follow a single individual around waiting for them to go 5 over the speed limit.

[ncallaway]

I'll give a partial list and refer to the RCW since that's a state I'm familiar with. Again, the entire point is the driving code is long and complicated. There are many many reasons you can be stopped.

Explore the entire RCW yourself on driving rules here: https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61. I encourage you to read the entire section and ask yourself if you ever have a driving trip longer than 3 blocks where you don't violate one of these laws:

- Speeding (even 1 mph over the limit for only 1 second). 46.61.400 (2)

- Speeding (even if at/under the speed limit if the officer things the roadway is unsafe for that speed, subjective to the officer making the stop) 46.41.400 (1)

- Speeding (failure to slow down at an intersection, hill crest, bend in the road, or when pedestrians are nearby, subjective to the officer making the stop) 46.41.400 (3)

- Passing on the right (except in specific situations) 46.61.110 & 46.61.115

- Driving too slowly (driving too slowly such that you impair the normal and reasonable flow of traffic; note for extra fun that the normal flow of traffic is often above the speed limit and this particular law doesn't provide an exception for driving at the speed limit; subjective to the officer making the stop) 46.61.425

- Failure to signal (both turns and lane changes, even into your own driveway) 46.61.305 (1)

- Failure to properly signal (not signaling a full 100 feet of travel before turning or changing lanes) 46.61.305 (2)

- Illegal wide turn. 46.61.290

- Reckless driving (subjective to the officer making the stop) 46.61.500

- Failure to come to a complete halt at a stop sign. 46.61.190

- Failure to stop between 15-50 feet of the rail from a mandatory stop rail cross (note, the distance measured is from the nearest rail, not the stop sign) 46.61.345

- Expired tabs (even by a day). 46.16A.030

- Anything not street legal about your vehicle (headlight out, taillight out, cracked windshield, window tint).

> Cops don't follow a single individual around waiting for them to go 5 over the speed limit.

This is a preposterous statement and absolutely false. This happens all the time when an officer becomes suspicious of a vehicle. It's literally routine policing that you would learn at the academy if you took officer training.

[metrokoi]

I think you misinterpreted my comment, friend. I never said or impled that cops don't pull people over for speeding. I said they don't target a single individual and follow them around waiting for them to speed. This was the part of the parent comment I was responding to:

>Putting someone under watch

That does not mean following a single individual a cop may encounter on the road that looks sketchy and wait for them to speed. It means staking out outside "Joe Blow who lives as 12345 Address St."'s house because Joe Blow is part of a demographic that is predicted to be more likely to be involved with gang activity, and waiting for him to get in his car and speed. The difference is an "unknown" or "random" individual vs. a "known" or "pre-planned" individual, because that is what the parent comment was discussing. I apologize if my original comment was unclear! I say this respectfully, it may be beneficial to more carefully examine the context of comments so that discussions may be more productive in the future.

[lostapathy]

It's not like cops can pull you over for simple possession of weed in your glove box. They pull people over for a traffic infraction and then find the weed, illegal gun, etc.

[godelski]

I once looked up the arrest records in my local area. The number one reason for arrest was "driving without a license." (with no other infractions listed). I'm not saying that this was racial profiling, but I'm not denying that people with Hispanic last names accounted for the vast majority of these arrests. I am at least implying that it is a little suspicious and maybe requires a little more nuance and closer inspection.

[lostapathy]

Right. Generally, when somebody gets pulled over for a trivial violation and then something bigger is found during the stop, they only write a ticket for the bigger violation. Less paperwork that way and has the end result they were looking for.

[boring_twenties]

Does your area allow undocumented immigrants to get driver licenses?

[metrokoi]

Like I said, most people do not own weapons illegally or use illegal drugs, even weed. Most people don't smoke weed, even in legal states.

[Falling3]

Are you unaware of the fact that police plant evidence?

[boring_twenties]

It would seem farfetched to suggest that this is a widespread issue. And yet it would seem farfetched to suggest that cops would just kill someone for the fuck of it, and yet here we are.