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by 0d9eooo 2180 days ago
So, I left a tenured position. The linked piece resonates with me.

I'm actually not so sure it's that common relative to the number of people who actually leave. After I left my position I started learning about other tenured faculty who left their positions also, some of whom I respected quite a bit and who I never imagined would have any reason to leave their position. One place interviewed me for a faculty position later, the primary problem being that they had multiple tenured faculty leave and had holes to fill. None of these individuals who left their positions wrote about it.

I do think you're right in the sense that it's this thing that no one knows what to do with. You've built up these relationships, your colleagues are all in academics, and many of them are happy. So they don't understand. You're kind of a glitch in the matrix, and no one knows how to approach it because it's not supposed to happen. I've been told everything from that I'm a total badass to crazy and insane. I myself haven't figured out which is more accurate yet. Maybe both.

The fact that these experiences compel some kind of cathartic explanation speaks volumes about the problems in academics though. It's like there's the commonly agreed-upon story in academics, the face being presented, and then there's reality, and they don't line up, so people just kind of pretend the glitches don't exist.

Not too long ago on HN there was a blog piece going through one person's (an economist?) exploration of whether or not biomedical research was in crisis. (I've tried to find it but can't.) It was frustrating to me because so much of what they detailed was true, but in the end they just decided something like "oh well, it's obvious this field is in crisis, but research is getting done in the end so it doesn't matter." It's like this ship in flames, where people are burning and there's emergency sirens going off, and as long as the individuals in power are happy, and there's a good narrative being presented to the public, with results in the media to talk about, no one cares.

I just can't tell where this is headed: if the ship is going to finally sink so far that it becomes something you can't hide, or if it's just going to keep on like this indefinitely, or if it's going to get fixed, or what. Universities have survived much worse than current circumstances, so it seems implausible to me anything will fundamentally change.

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There's a substantial correlation between the behavior of academia and that of a cult. In my field of fundamental physics, we are so specialized that when people leave, they essentially never return. If conditions were to change in such a way as to make it possible for people to flow back and forth between serious research and the real world, the culture would normalize.

The reason that doesn't happen, though, is that academia is a lot like professional athletics. Whether most of the participants know it or not, they're doing it for some combination of love-of-the-field and a lottery ticket. We're all willing to tolerate sub-standard working conditions precisely because we absolutely love our field and are willing to do almost anything to stay in.

I've left lots of money on the table in order to remain in physics as long as I have because the work is, when it is good, so very fulfilling. Unfortunately, I'm about to leave because some of the structure, built for good-hearted reasons but presently suffering colliding dependencies, now substantially impedes my colleagues and me from getting good science done. I know that when I leave, I essentially cannot come back. There will be another younger, smarter ISL waiting to fill my position the moment I'm gone.

If you haven't read this yet, you'll enjoy it. https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/an-open-letter-to-the-ma...
Imo it will boil down to economics and the undergrads. Universities have survived a very long time, but they used to sell education not prestige. Prestige is an asset that can rapidly lose value: ask MIT-bioscience donor Jeffery Epstein ;P. It's humourous to watch them scramble to get classes going because if a year of young people just move on without universities, the jig is up. The admissions scandal should have already done it :/....