[Jack000]

In my experience the quality of developers posting on that thread is worse than upwork, on average. This shouldn't be surprising, since hn is an open forum where literally anyone can post. On upwork there's at least some work history you can look at.

[ta17711771]

How many experiences have you had?

[Jack000]

I've kind of lost count, but about 5 on hn, and 10 or so on upwork. I'm still working with 1 from hn, who is posting to the thread despite having very limited availability.

There were 3 people from upwork whose work quality was great, but are also severely overbooked (great work on the first project, then no reply for weeks)

The biggest problem for me is that qualified devs all seem to be overbooked.

[kofejnik]

> qualified devs all seem to be overbooked.

did you try giving them more money?

[Jack000]

yes, I did.

to add to this - I pay exactly what the freelancer asks, and not a single person I've worked with has ever asked me for an increase in rates, even when I would have gladly accepted. When I offer more money proactively, it's usually when they're dropping the project and I really want them to continue. Unfortunately money doesn't seem to be the issue in these cases - the two instances were "got a job" and "personal issue".

apart from that:

- hourly rates don't correlate with total cost, lower hourly rates = they'll bill you more hours

- higher hourly rates isn't necessarily better. The best, most reliable person I've worked with charged $60/hr. The worst was well over 100.

[wmark]

I am curious to know how in the world someone with $100/hr could not provide a professional service?

Doesn't lower hourly rate means less experienced professional?

I should probably increase my rate from $45/hr to at least $60/hr considering that I don't annoy my clients like you in Upwork.

On the contrary, getting clients to actually pay over $100/hr is a holy grail. How many clients did these guys had in their history?

[mettamage]

If you're looking for another freelancer (2 days per week), then allow me to rectify the HN record. I'd specifically like to freelance for you as I have a hunch that you'll give feedback in a straight manner and that happens to be how I communicate (most Dutch people do).

My email is in my profile.