This policy change will have a far-reaching impact on immigrants' lives, but it will also have an impact on the lives of non-immigrants. In light of that, you cannot reasonably argue that non-immigrants (or immigrant citizens) should be silent about H1Bs.
Moreover, an individual can collaborate constructively with immigrant coworkers on a personal level, while also advocating politically for a more restrictive immigration system.
There is nothing unethical about that. The role of government is to protect the natural rights and interests of its own constituents.
How is it in the collective interests of Americans to block highly educated and productive people from taking jobs in the US? The economy is not a zero-sum game. The administration still lets in temporary agricultural workers - who work for incredibly low wages that very much undercut jobs for Americans - and yet keeps out people who work in fields where there is a shortage of qualified workers and who earn relatively high incomes?
Educated immigrants grow the US economy and increate the total employment of the country in the long run. That's who is being kept out here.
This isn't an action that's being taken to help fix issues with the H1B visa system. It's simply to stop immigration to the US.
I'm saying we shouldn't hurl epithets at people for commenting on political concerns that affect them, just because we don't like their point of view. There's a difference between "anti-immigrant" and "anti-H1B."
Look up the definition of "bigotry." People on both sides of the issue should be tolerant of reasonable commentary from the other side.
Yes, you did. You have now edited your comment to remove the part where you expressed your shock at seeing so many "anti-immigrant" commenters on HN. Don't gaslight.
EDIT: I made a mistake, you made the comment two posts above, not in the prior post. That's why I didn't see it when I came to reply; I looked at the immediate parent rather than going back a ways. But it's right there two posts above, you're decrying "anti-immigrant" commenters. When you set up the debate in that way, there's no consideration of the argument on the other side. You just write it off as being somehow hateful or motivated by prejudice. I don't dispute that some people are prejudiced, but that isn't the only basis upon which H1B policy can be judged. There are tens of millions of unemployed people in the USA right now. Suspension of H1B prioritizes those people over foreign nationals. It's not necessarily a question of anti-immigrant sentiment.
The only edits I've made are for grammatical changes or typographical errors, done quickly after the initial posting as I am a poor proofreader. I am really not sure what you're talking about. My original comment stands that yes, I am shocked to see so many anti-immigrant comments here. That seems like a pretty blandly accurate description to me. No one has been called a name.
Many more comments are non sequiturs about the various shortcomings of the H1B program which has nothing to do with why it was suspended. My comment doesn't label every participant in this thread as anti-immigrant.
Academia and “intellectual” circles in the West are not universally enlightened about the equality of humans (comments here, and on BLM threads on many forums). It doesn’t even appear to be an opinion of the conclusive majority. I was quite shocked and disappointed when I learned this too. People are just that, I suppose.
also a lot veiled xenophobia re: developers from poorer countries which is absolutely disgusting (and it's something that hits me particularly).