[beshrkayali]

Exactly. The main problem is MSM with corporate money behind it. Getting things wrong is normal, getting things wrong intentionally (or recklessly) is malicious.

There are many. But they're difficult to find and get into. My favorite is http://www.noagendashow.com/.

[paulgb]

> My favorite is http://www.noagendashow.com/.

Are they doing independent investigative journalism, though? I jumped around in the episode a bit and it just sounds like talk radio commentary/opinion that cites MSM sources.

[beshrkayali]

It's more like media analysis I think. Both John and Adam take clips from main-stream/internet media and try to examine it. I think they do a very good job at that. There's a long donation segment because the show is produced by listeners. Sound effects and such started out as a joke but listeners like it, and almost everything around the show is done by the community, including the website, shownotes, and transcripts.

Adam was on Rogan in March. I recommend watching that episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaPKrZTUoUs

[unixhero]

Pretty partisan tho. I couldn't listen more than 5 minutes, "No one should vote x candidate".

[beshrkayali]

I don't think so, but I've been listening to them for years. They criticize all sides, but one needs to listen to a few episodes to get into it, because they do have their own style of inside-jokes/jargon that might make first-time listener feel a bit lost, but that's the case with most indie/alternative media I think.

[peteretep]

> The main problem is MSM with corporate money behind it

Plenty of non-profit MSM, including the BBC, The Guardian, AP, and so on.