[duxup]

The OMG JavaScript, parade of articles is tiresome / endless and IMO is trending towards the absurd, and it kinda irks me.

I could really go without ever hearing someone bemoan how they rewrote an internal react site in 10 seconds with two lines of JavaScript, or whatever old wives tale they've got going on. If it was that easy then maybe it also wasn't the end times?

Yeah there's a lot of pages that maybe could get away without JavaScript. But man it's not the 90s anymore, many site owners want lots of dynamic app like behaviors, and there's a real question there between "this reader doesn't want it" and "the person who is paying for the site wants some stuff".

Maybe someone has Homer Simpson's web page level absurdity with JavaScript, and maybe that's Homer's page and that's ok?

The browser now effectively runs apps, so it's not just going to read HTML, that's how it is, and that's a good thing the web does so much more now. Does it do everything we want / how we want/ no ... but I don't buy into the idea of a end user only web where we have to bow to the lowest common denominator as far as acceptable levels of interactivity or tech usage....

[paulryanrogers]

> The browser now effectively runs apps, so it's not just going to read HTML

The problem is that browsers are running apps when most users just want to read relatively static content. Our ever decreasing, day-one battery lives and swelling landfills are clear evidence this isn't sustainable.

[ng12]

> most users just want to read relatively static content

The most oft-complained about sites (news sites, "blogs") don't really care what you want. They care about engagement, monetizing, and/or conversions. That's much more difficult without JavaScript. If you have it disabled you've limited your value to them anyways.

Aside from the small number of altruistic orgs like WikiMedia your complaints about JS will fall on deaf ears.

[duxup]

I'm not convinced that most users really care.

Their eyes read, but they still interact as well.

[protonimitate]

Agreed, I'm pretty bored by the influx of "No-Javascript" articles being pushed to the top of HN weekly.

There is almost never any new insight, and you could copy+paste comments from one to the next and not know the difference.

We get it, Javascript is the worst and everything should run perfectly without it - at least to the vocal minority of users who actually care (which is basically just HN's demographic).