[TedDoesntTalk]

I applaud sites that work without Javascript.

The sad reality is that the enormous popularity of SPA frameworks like React and Angular make this possibility a small fraction of important sites — e.g. I don’t know if any banking or investment website that works without JavaScript.

Maybe this is less important as app-culture supplants such sites.

[superkuh]

Most sites aren't important sites and most sites aren't handling monetary transactions or private information. Most sites have no dynamic content. Most sites don't need javascript at all and all it does it makes things worse.

Most devs need to stop taking the crap tools they're forced to use at their paid job and using them for their personal websites.

[TedDoesntTalk]

I agree. Unfortunately, it seems that Most Devs either don't agree with us or don't care.

[danielskogly]

Both of those frameworks support SSR, and can then be made to work without JS on the client side for many use cases.