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by ikeyany 2187 days ago
I get keeping 'parent/child', but why is it so ridiculous to change 'blacklist'? It seems reasonable to not want to associate 'black' with 'bad/evil'.

Thinking about how we use the term 'blacklist' doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice on our part.

If you disagree, I would love to hear your logic.

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We should also change all of these doubleplus ungood words: Black market Black magic Black Sabbath Black widow Black soul Black sheep Black eye Black mark Black rider Black out Black box Black book

I was triggered twice just typing this up.

If someone proposing using a better term than 'blacklist' makes you take an all-or-nothing reaction, it might be a case where if you have a hammer, everything you see is a nail.
Can't you empathise with people who identify as black and have to see phrases like "black magic" meaning evil while "white magic" is good? Why not start here? Are we only changing open ssl because it's easy?
If you don't like using the term, then by all means say 'evil magic'.
Black Friday.
> Thinking about how we use the term 'blacklist' doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice on our part.

Nor master, and whatever others terms one can come up with. I'm offended by your username, please change it.

At the end of the day it doesn't seem like it actually moves the world forward.

It seems reasonable to not want to associate 'black' with 'bad/evil'.

Is it? The term "black goods" is often used to refer to things like TVs, stereo systems, and HTPCs, because of what colour they often are, and that's not bad/evil at all.

...and are we going to start complaining about "dark mode" too...?

Thinking about a few terms that we use and then deciding "this term has no effect" or "this term reinforces prejudices" is not a great Sisyphean task. Not all terms that have to do with color are inherently prejudiced or exclusionary. Common sense can still reign while being honest about the etymology of our words.

This is assuming you are asking in good faith, and not to trivialize and silence people who disagree with you.