[jhardy54]

Explaining my downvote: I'm thoroughly annoyed at all of the versions of this comment on HN lately. It adds nothing to the discussion, and derails the conversation we were having to talk about some vague injustice where People These Days don't let you say Stuff Like This.

Can you point to something you've said that's resulted in the problem you've described?

[core-questions]

Are you literally not looking around at all these days? Your filter bubble must be very, very small and selective indeed to somehow have missed Cancel Culture.

[ChristianBundy]

I've seen people get offended by celebrities with insensitive takes, but I've never seen anyone on HN get cancelled because of a comment. The worst I've seen is "this is wrong and here's why" or "I don't want to talk to you".

Generally I've seen people reach for "cancel culture" when:

1. Fear-mongering the left over perceived injustice.

2. Defending bad takes by tone-policing any disagreement.

Can you point to a comment by john_moscow where they've been 'cancelled'? Or maybe a comment by you?

[tekknik]

Does it have to be something parent specifically said? If not look around the news?

[jhardy54]

Sorry, based on your comment history I don't think I'd like to discuss anything with you. Cheers.

[tekknik]

So because someone has a counter opinion from yours to refuse debate but stand on a public forum without desire to be challenged? Wow.

[jhardy54]

I'm happy to have discussions with people I disagree with, but generally once you're down the "poverty is good, actually" [0] rabbit hole I think a discussion would be a waste of both of our time.

I think you should be embarrassed at edgelord takes like "I don’t see the value an impoverished set of humans can provide" [1], and I don't have any interest in talking with far-right extremists. Bye.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23591648

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23599938

[tekknik]

Read the rest of the comment, which is the point you’re failing to realize. You’re judging without understanding the complete picture. So again read that comment again and read it from a logical standpoint instead of emotional. It literally says the next sentence they have value in some situation and your failure to understand that some poor bread maker can’t have anything valid to say when writing software or building a rocket. That’s my opinion, change it if you want with facts. Not everybody that disagrees with you is a right wing extremist. Some of us are capable of discussing actual facts and values. And you also pointed to a comment made after your comment so how this can be influential in your first comment suggests you have some ability to travel through time.

[tekknik]

To further explain my position, I actually don't disagree that help should be given if possible. But right now I don't see why given we have uneducated and poor people still within the US we should help another country. IFF we have this problem resolved, AND we have surplus resources (money, goods, etc), then clearly why not provide as much help as possible? But when we have yet to solve the problem here it's an ask to divert resources. So then the value proposition question comes up. If I must divert resources then this must somehow create more value for me to justify it, so that I can then in turn help those in need in my country that these resources could be going to help instead.