Ok you win, since the NSA and the CIA have a complete transparency rule like all the western security services have...it has to be China (or something like that) ;)
All your replies are arrogant in tone and derogatory to other posters. If you're trying to prove a point you should have to put in as much effort as you are requesting from the others. Provide valid links where the assumptions were wrong and justify your argument. This condescending tone does not suit HN community. I hope someone flags your comments.
You make the allegations so bringing the proof is on your side...
To believe everything a state says well THAT is arrogant..one hint?
-Chemical weapons in Iraq (many times repeated by 'free' media, with a war at the end and no chem found)
And NO i like the HN community exactly because thinking out of the box is normal, just believe what a state like Australia says and the standard 'enemy' is china...that's a dangerous thing. I'm NOT saying it's not true, i just want some proof, otherwise it smells once again foul.