[pipermerriam]

I use ProtonVPN. Same company as ProtonMail. Highly reputable with a business model around doing privacy and encryption well.

[helloooooooo]

NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN. For that reason I find it sketchy.

[gzer0]

I would like to read more about this, do you have a source?

I cannot find anything reliable that suggests this! Thanks.

[E5JBK7UJPT]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...

[gzer0]

This suggests the opposite of what you say in your original comment.

[E5JBK7UJPT]

I was not the original person that replied to you. I was just providing with you with information on the incident they were referring to. Proton denied the claim but it is up to you whether you believe them or not.

[krn]

https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn...

[rmrfstar]

You should also link the HN thread where proton categorically denies the claims.

In particular, the claim that tesonet controls protonvpn's release signing key.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203

[nix23]

>NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN

What really? Some proof for that? ProtonVPN and ProtonMail is located in Switzerland Genève, i dont see any open positions for estonia

https://careers.protonmail.com/

[raxxorrax]

I don't think NordVPN is sketchy, even with their latest hic-ups. They are however located in Panama as far as I know, which probably gives the US access for "drug trafficing".

[rmrfstar]

Link. Please.

[jorge-d]

IMHO ProtonVPN (and Mail) are the perfect honeypots

[gzer0]

ProtonVPN provides the source code for their desktop and mobile clients in their GitHub organization [1]. Yes open source != safe; however this level of transparency is at least a step in the right direction.

They also have regularly been audited by independent organizations that are openly available for the public to see their compliance [2][3][4][5][6].

Do you have any evidence to suggest that they are honeypots?

[1] https://github.com/ProtonVPN

[2] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton...

[3] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton...

[4] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton...

[5] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton...

[6] https://protonvpn.com/blog/open-source/

[29athrowaway]

And how do you know if what they built is exactly what's in that source?

[gzer0]

You seem to not have read my comment. I said open source != safe or trusted.

You can download the entire repository, and self compile yourself after you inspect the code.

[cambalache]

Hehe, exactly, oldest trick in the trade

[nix23]

I call that bullshit until you have a single proof for that.

Everything is opensource, the data s are located in Switzerland on there own hardware. They have open communication and a yearly transparency report:

https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

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How/why?