[m3kw9]

So we should try your service just because you say you won’t lie? What do you think of this white paper anyway?

[dougwbrunton]

You should do whatever you want to do, you are your own human.

My biggest question about Zoom's implementation is, how can we trust it? They haven't proven themselves to be trustworthy, so it's a big ask for the world to believe their latest pitch.

[kerkeslager]

Compare:

1. Zoom: is actively lying right now, has lied in the past, and has had numerous security breaches which were easily avoidable.

2. Team.video: This Doug W. Brunton fellow may be lying, but at least is not currently taking an opportunity to lie, and seems to have a decent grasp of the tradeoffs involved in end-to-end versus point-to-point.

[m3kw9]

So we should use your service because you don't lie, correct?

[logie17]

I don't think he's trying to convince you he's not lying, but rather we should promote services that encourage transparency and open standards.

[kerkeslager]

Nope, I don't have a competing service.

Try again.

[m3kw9]

There are instances in every large corp in and out of the Nasdaq of lying, don't be a hypocrite.

[kerkeslager]

I have done my best throughout my career to tell the truth. If you can find an example where you think I've lied, I'd be happy to clarify. So no, I'm not a hypocrite.

You're literally taking a pro-lying stance right now. Is that really who you want to be?