[RHSeeger]

> I know this argument is often quickly dismissed on HN since people see child abuse or 'going dark' as an easy excuse for the government to leverage to get more control (and it has been used for this), but that doesn't mean the problem isn't serious or doesn't exist.

When a company says they want your phone number in order to use their resources, so they can take steps to avoid having their resources used for (certain) crimes, that's well within the bounds of reasonable.

The problem most people have is when the government tkes away the use of _super important feature_ from the populace as a whole (even using their own resources), because it _can_ be used for crimes.

Those are two VERY different things.