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by petey283 2196 days ago
Looks like Hey is complying with all Apple's requirements and yet Apple is still rent-seeking. Not a good look for Apple.
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No they aren't. This is just a rehash of every App Store for the last decade.

App Store is a distribution channel. And just like Best Buy wouldn't tolerate you bypassing their cut neither does Apple.

> And just like Best Buy wouldn't tolerate you bypassing their cut

The difference is that Best Buy doesn't decide which appliances I can plug into my home outlet. I can buy a toaster from Walmart if I don't like Best Buy's setup, but I can't buy products from another store and put them on my iPhone.

That's not to say Apple is wrong, just that Best Buy isn't a good comparison to use. Apple is a distribution channel and a platform. Some better analogies would be Nintendo's requirement that any software running on the Switch go through their specific approval process, or maybe a printer requiring you to only buy official ink cartridges.

The ink cartridge is a good, persuasive analogy.
Best Buy sells plenty of products that come with future revenue streams in which Best Buy receives zero cut.
Also Best Buy sells "As seen on TV" products, which clearly indicate they can be purchased elsewhere. Apple wants their cut, and they're not taking no for an answer.
The Netflix app doesn't require you to use Apple Pay. Why should Hey be treated differently?
seems to me that once apps get big enough they're able to sidestep the apple tax completely. I wonder why they don't try some kind of graduated model that starts at 30% and drops to 10% once there are enough subscriptions.

I feel there is a number that Netflix and others would be happy to pay to help onboard customers.

Are you able to manage your subscription in the Netflix app, though?
Great question/point! I had to check - tapping "Account" in the app brings you to the Netflix website.
Do you think Apple isn’t getting their dues from Netflix?
From the Twitter thread, it seems pretty clear they are trying to comply, similar to other services.

Can you clarify where they are not?

They don't provie IAP for the service
I'm inclined to agree with you. Apple's terms aren't exactly new. While I don't like Apple's App Store model, Hey had to know what it was getting into. This is an uphill fight that even Amazon ultimately ended up capitulating to.
Amazon does not pay the apple fee for physical goods in the app version of their store, and it sounds like they have a special deal with apple for the video app: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/3/21206400/apple-tax-amazon-...
E-commerce apps have always been allowed, but the video app did not allow purchasing on iOS at all (if I recall they even blocked it in mobile Safari) until very recently. But my point was this isn't exactly a new policy for Apple, and if you're building an app in 2020, it's just how the model works. Hail laissez-faire capitalism.