[hairytrog]

It is now clear that Covid-19 is not as dangerous as was thought and hyped by media and governments worldwide, and that the prescribed shutdown cure has been and will be much worse than the disease itself. Please see (https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/) for a pretty clear summary or follow Aaron Ginn. Covid-19 vaccine development is nearly useless at this point. That said, we need countermeasures and resilience to such events in the future.

The expectation is we may be well be in 50% to 100% infection rate if serology yield is 1/5. Pretty scary. This means the disease was extremely rapid, and we would've been absolutely trashed if it had been significantly more lethal. We need to invest massively on R&D against such potential threats. Covid-19 shows that state control wouldn't have done much to prevent global devastation, and that state control can itself cause the devastation. We need technological countermeasures such as one week vaccine development and deployment or transition to more separate economic spheres with permanent and complete travel bans and highly controlled trade between countries or geographic regions.

[shoyer]

This is actively dangerous misinformation.

In places where the pandemic is not under control, there have been vast numbers of excess deaths: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronav...

We are still far from the peak in most parts of the world.

New York City has a population about 8 million, with 24,000 [1] excess deaths and an antibody positive rate of about 20% [2]. Do you really think it would be acceptable to let another 50,000 people in New York die (0.6% of the population) to reach herd immunity?

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-11/new-york-... [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/antibody-testing-shows-coron...

[hairytrog]

Lots of downvotes on my comment. A somewhat hilarious denial of what is plainly visible. Did you people even read the linked summary? The economy was hijacked for a complete non-threat, driven by increasingly discredited studies, "experts" speaking in apocalyptic terms, and a media looking for crisis.

[simonebrunozzi]

> The economy was hijacked

So, a conspiracy? I bet hundreds of people met in secret at least once in the past few months, and decided it would have been really lucrative to stage this farce. Well played! And nobody will ever know.

Sarcasm or jokes apart... Who, tell me who would have had the power and the drive to set this up?

[redis_mlc]

There have multiple conspiracies with covid-19:

- coverup at Wuhan Corona Lab in Dec. and disappearance of local doctors

- coverup of US government funding and oversight of that lab

- California has had flat hospital stats for 3 months, yet we're still lockdown because Gavin Newsom wants to be President

[nextaccountic]

A link from Swiss Policy Research? This doesn't seem too persuasive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Propaganda_Research

> Swiss Policy Research (SPR) or (before May 2020) Swiss Propaganda Research is a website launched in 2016, which describes itself as a "an independent nonprofit research group investigating geopolitical propaganda in Swiss and international media". The editors of the site are unknown, but they claim that "SPR is composed of independent academics and receives no external funding".[1] The site has been widely criticised for spreading conspiracy theories and especially so during the times of the COVID-19 pandemic when it has become a source of misinformation and disinformation internationally.[2] The site has been categorized by some as a tool of propaganda.[3] It has even been noted that, contrary to what the title suggests, the contents of the site are likely created outside of Switzerland.

[nostromo]

Just today I was reading that vaccinations in many countries were stopped to prevent Covid-19 transmission, and now children are starting to die.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/health/coronavirus-vaccin...

[redis_mlc]

There will be so much collateral damage due to the lockdown.

- wiped out most small business owners (anybody who rents a store front, etc.

- delayed chemotherapy treatments

- delayed coronary checkups and treatment.

- doctors are reporting high rates of suicides

There will probably be more collateral than corona deaths in the US, especially when you factor in co-morbidity.