[helen___keller]

> If the narrative was mostly about economic status, we would hear more about that and about universal programs

Like.... Universal healthcare? One of the most (perhaps THE most) discussed topics at democratic presidential debates?

Just because neither Bernie nor Elizabeth Warren didn't win the nomination doesn't mean that their ideas aren't part of the left.

[skinnymuch]

I thought Warren backed away from full Universal for all Health insurance. From my outside look, it didn’t appear as if Warren was actually that progressive. One random example — endorsing Biden (and Hillary which possibly is about identity politics) were both political moves not seeming to be of someone close to a progressive like Bernie.

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Many poorer people already get Medicaid which is quite good. If that was expanded a bit more to slightly higher incomes and [conservatives] states couldn’t deny so many people who should get it. That would be many times cheaper than Medicare for all. It would help the most marginalized.

Millions of people on good Medicaid right now could actually see their health insurance worsen under some universal health measures.

[helen___keller]

> I thought Warren backed away from full Universal for all Health insurance.

Her exact proposal was to phase-in full universal by starting with a subsidized public option and then spending more time building out a full universal plan, i believe.

You can argue this is a cop-out but i'd say it's more of a technocratic play - offering full universal would be a massive undertaking and not something that can just pop up overnight, but offering a subsidized insurance plan in the existing system is comparatively easier and could be implemented easily in a president's first year in office (with a cooperative congress, anyways)

Regardless, that's all aside the point