[mcescalante]

> As someone who has used Angular 2 since beta, I can tell you, it's been a bumpy ride nonetheless.

I can second this - I've been working on a variety of Angular apps in an enterprise environment. It's worked fine and the "batteries included" has worked for my org, but it has definitely been a bumpy ride to get from beta to 9 with plenty of changes along the way.

> And here I am using HTML and CSS with tiny sprinkles of JS for most websites, and it's working just fine, and has been for many years.

This has been my favorite setup at work - pick "boring" tech like Django/Flask or Spring Boot and then sprinkle in some Javascript for highly interactive forms/pieces (React or Vue if needed).