[abc-xyz]

Slightly off-topic: any not-made-in-china router recommendations?

[g-b-r]

AVM, I think (but not sure) that they're still made in Germany

[mobilio]

Mikrotik

[g-b-r]

They are made in china, at least the last I bought (at least the company and the software are not chinese, of course)

[mobilio]

Yes, but OS (firmware) is built in EU.

Technically someone somewhere make a electronic plate and sold some elements on it.

But difference is who is wrote a software on top.

[g-b-r]

?

Who wrote a software (and designed and sold the whole thing) is some difference, much better than nothing, but the "electronic plate" can still be filled with backdoors and other gimmicks...

[jankiehodgpodge]

Draytek