[FakeRemore]

> each updates has user facing features with QOL improvements

You must be joking. The meme about "stability intensifies" with Switch updates isn't just a joke. Most of their updates are minor bugfixes and "increasing stability" (fixing exploits). They're far more interested in fixing exploits than they ever were in improving the OS in any meaningful way for the user. It's been 3 years and the only major QOL change I see on that list is making the all software page not useless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch_system_softwar...

[willis936]

It was a meme adopted from the 3DS hacking community.

Anyway, I still remember the first year that the switch came out when everyone thought “maybe this next update will add bluetooth audio”.

Seriously. Other Tegra X1 devices have bluetooth audio. Why can I not use my wireless earbuds on a portable device with all of the technical capability to use them? Is it really such a big ask to enable this most basic of feature?

[hrktb]

The only regression that seemed widespread was the joycon drift on pro controller (which was bad, but fixed within a week).

Otherwise heavy Splatoon players might be hit more than others, but the stability improvements seemed real. At some point the Switch had to be rebooted every other day, nowadays it's something not needed in weeks perhaps.

For QOL the last big update allowing to remap buttons was a big deal. I haven't tried moving data between to the SD card but it would also be a big deal for people with more than 10 ~ 20 games, as space becomes scarce pretty fast.

[FakeRemore]

> but the stability improvements seemed real. At some point the Switch had to be rebooted every other day

No idea what you're talking about.

> For QOL the last big update allowing to remap buttons was a big deal. I haven't tried moving data between to the SD card but it would also be a big deal for people with more than 10 ~ 20 games, as space becomes scarce pretty fast.

My point is that the amount of real QOL changes is extremely low for the amount of time the console has been out. There's been nearly nothing, while they just keep "increasing stability".

Frankly, the Switch's OS is still incredibly barebones and missing a lot of QOL features and I'm tired of people defending Nintendo for being so half-assed about the Switch. It's been three years. There's been barely any progress, whether it's the OS, online infrastructure, or fixing the drift issues. Do they have Yakuza debts they need to pay off or what? Where's all the money going to?

[hrktb]

> No idea what you're talking about.

After some hours (10 ? 20?) of play on a few intensive games, it was slowing down and/or becoming glitchy. The fan would not ramp up so it didn't seem to be temperature.

I thought it was an isolated issue until a saw a few streamers hit the same kind of issue and casually explain they forgot to reboot their switch.

> It's been three years.

I get your point. I kinda gave up on expecting shiny revolutionary features, or comparing to the PS or Xbox.

My angle on it is pretty similar to when the iPhone came out. There was no copy and paste, multi-tasking and was arguably slow for a lot of things, but the pros outweighed the cons, and we knew Apple wouldn't be doing any big leaps any day soon.

I'm still frustrated by iOS by the way, but still think it's worth it.

Nintendo's Switch is at that place for me at this point. I'll buy a PS5 anyway, and I'll be happy if Nintendo continues to bring new games and paradigms on the table that the other makers are not touching.

[FakeRemore]

> I thought it was an isolated issue until a saw a few streamers hit the same kind of issue and casually explain they forgot to reboot their switch.

Interesting, thanks. I sold my Switch after a year, so I've only been following up on it intermittently and missed this.

> My angle on it is pretty similar to when the iPhone came out. There was no copy and paste, multi-tasking and was arguably slow for a lot of things, but the pros outweighed the cons, and we knew Apple wouldn't be doing any big leaps any day soon.

I was okay with the Switch's OS in the beginning because I figured, sure, they rushed this to market, but this is a relatively solid basis to keep building and improving on. None of which happened. Queue my frustration with Nintendo.

I do feel by comparison iOS has made leaps and bounds (though admittedly, depending on what features you wanted, it might have taken longer than you might have wanted). I've since switched to Android (again), but I think there was a very long period where I'd stay up to watch the Apple conference revealing the new phones and iOS features, even when I didn't have any Apple device. As far as I can remember, every year brought significant changes, though of course I can't point out what they were for every year. The introduction of the concept of files and a file manager made iOS much more palatable to me, for example.

edit: https://www.theverge.com/2011/12/13/2612736/ios-history-ipho...

Wanted to take a look. iOS 4 added multitasking. iOS 5 added the notification center, iTunes wifi sync, OTA updates, iMessage. iOS 6 added, uh, .... the beloved Apple Maps? iOS 7 was the visual overhaul, added the control center (which I miss on Android), AirDrop, Camera and Photos were improved, multitasking was greatly improved, TouchID was added, apps automatically updating added.

Seems like there was a fairly steady stream of improvements almost every year. SwitchOS hasn't seen anything remotely close. Of course, Apple is a much larger company and has a much larger budget, but still, I think regardless of how large or small a company, it should be capable of yearly improvements from whatever place they're at any given time.