[dcolkitt]

I agree. This isn't quite an apples-to-apples comparison. But middle-market companies with okay-ish financials can easily get covenant-lite leveraged loans from the gigantic private credit market, for well under LIBOR + 1000 basis points. The current yield-to-maturity on the leveraged load index is 5.64%[1].

3X in 7 years implies a yield-to-maturity of 17%. Why would any company pay more than three times the cost of capital they can get from much larger, more liquid, and established Wall Street financing?

[1] https://us.spindices.com/indices/fixed-income/sp-lsta-us-lev...

[smachiz]

Virtually no startup can get loans without a PG at any non-loanshark rate.

This would be very attractive to someone who wants to grow their business without taking (more) personal risk than they have already.

[dcolkitt]

The historical default rate for leveraged loans is 2.9%. This VC program claims a mortality rate of 10% over a 5+ year horizon. I.e. a 2% annualized default rate.

Now I'm sure they're not using exactly the same definition. Plus we have to take into account recovery rates. But the point is that this VC program almost certainly is not funding the "average startup". To achieve those low levels of default, their investment pool has to be significantly safer and more stable than the typical Valley startup.

So either their typical investment is safer in obvious ways, like interest coverage and EBITDA multiples. In which case they should be able to access traditional credit markets at much more favorable rates. Or the VCs in question have a unique ability to identify sure bets in opaque ways. Ways that other investors just can't see. In which case the secret sauce isn't the funding structure, but the preternatural giftedness of the firm's general partners.

(Or there's a third option, which is that the fund's track record has just represented a string of good luck. They've been fooled by randomness and future returns will not live up to past history.)

[a13n]

I would guess they would tell you "because it isn't personally guaranteed", which absolves you as an individual of financial risk.

Personally I'd be really excited to see better loans being offered to startups, but this isn't it.

EDIT: Also you're assuming a 7 year payback period, and I would guess it's a lot shorter than that for the average indie VC customer.