[las3r]

The pricing is more than steep. For that amount I can also buy an office 365 subscription which doesn't sell my data, and gives me access to all the desktop tools. I mean I'm willing to spend for this for a private mail address with a new way of working (I could even live without imap), but I can't justify these costs.

[PeterStuer]

For a private email address the pricing does indeed seem quite steep.

For a business email system it seems to miss a few features, especially around meetings.

Email seems to be warming to innovation again, but an approach that doesn't go for rip and replace, but rather augments and extends these features into existing email clients might have its benefits? e.g. Yablo [1] extends Outlook with a team collaboration and productivity environment, but it is still the full Outlook client and email to the outside world, so existing workflows and integrations built around that aren't disrupted.

[1] https://yablo.io (currently in open beta)

[holstvoogd]

Yeah, 99$ seems like to much for me. I currently pay ~24€ for secure private email hosting in the EU. Not so many fancy features, but it does include a entire gsuite clone

[sixhobbits]

Which provider is this? Sounds like what I'm looking for.

[holstvoogd]

Mailbox.org They are based in berlin, price scales with storage usage iirc

[msh]

I also use them. Their plans start at 1 euro a month. Works fine but once in a while my mail client gets login errors that go away after 5-10 min.

[disiplus]

i assume it's using OX. OX is not really gsuite clone, most of the apps are nowhere near the same quality.

[marcofiset]

I sure hope that custom domains will be included in that price. If so, I'll gladly pay the premium amount for the extra features.

[hnrodey]

>which doesn't sell my data

I read this as you're implying that Hey is going to sell your data. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Hey marketing pages explicitly say that your messages are encrypted and your data is never sold.

[Joeri]

No, you should read it as “also doesn’t sell my data”. The point is that office 365 offers a lot more value than hey for the same price.

[1123581321]

Almost every individual product or feature offered by O365 has a premium competitor. This dismays some people, but it’s fine that the default options in Office don’t work for everyone.

[pier25]

Yes, specially if you are outside of the US or most of Europe.

[jp_sc]

> which doesn't sell my data

For now (also, are you sure?).

With HEY I can trust my data won't be sold as long as DHH or Jason are alive (and maybe after that). I can't be sure Microsoft or any other company won't change their TOS even this afternoon. In fact, I can be sure they will eventually if it fits them.